energy drinks are cool i just forgot how late it was lol
yeah uh... sorry about that? didn't think you'd reply until the morning or something if i didn't ask now i'd forget which is the worst thing were you this tired back home??
in any case i figured i wanted to know what the hype about this blake guy is and all and i was bored
[he thought it'd put him to sleep, but he's actually using braincells]
I've felt weaker than normal back home. This hasn't changed here.
[And he leaves it at that. "What the hype is", though.
Despite himself, V cracks a smile at that.]
Blake lived in a time period where religion was not so much a choice as it was an expectation. He was indeed a man of God, though ironically possessed somewhat of a rebellious spirit, not particularly fond of organized religion.
But his works are often times still very spiritual as a result.
[he isn't sure what that means, but figures it's closely related to whatever the family of oracles would do, what with conferring with the gods and praying to them for favors or blessings. he figures it might be like some sects of people across lucis, who went past the oracle and recited their own prayers.]
[never been the religious type, him. which, now that he thinks about it, is perhaps strange that insomnia never pushed for any particular religion or type of worship. not even the ever radiant crystal received much attention other than for its magical properties and its gift quality from the gods.]
do you believe in stuff like religion?
[anyway, spins this around into asking v questions about himself, cool]
[Though V comes from a complicated background, in which this is not something easily answered, his response is simple.]
I know that the universe is now full of entities that I cannot comprehend or am even aware of. Some of those might be gods, demons, or spirits. In my world, the supernatural is not an uncommon thing. So yes, I would say that I am spiritual.
Religion can be a guiding set of principles. It can also incite fanaticism and power struggles between societies and people of differing opinions. I have nothing against it when it manifests harmlessly; but I do not pray to a god, if that's what you're asking me.
oh right, you did mention demons we spell them daemons btw but it has the same pronunciation
[prompto isn't familiar with how to have a conversation about these topics, clearly. he thinks it's cool that v is pretty well aware of himself and religion and the like. it's a portion of knowledge prompto is otherwise lacking in.]
sounds like a reason someone would start a war for
[perhaps it's somewhat... similar to the empire seeking out the crystal that graced the lucians with magic and prosperity for so long? what becomes of a man, though, when they otherwise cease to exist? prompto remembers verstael, so far gone, dissolving into parasitic miasma, flowing onto a machine.]
i noticed that the people on earth have a lot of gods too but they're not from the same religion seems weird
[but]
they follow gods to save their souls? do all living things have that?
Some do. For salvation, for penance. And some find religion to be grounding, purposeful. The strength to carry on in the face of adversity, and giving their lives meaning in moments of stagnancy.
It's all dependent on the person.
[He never cared for more than the gathering of power, back when he was still Vergil. Aware of spirituality and religion, but never applying such notions strictly to himself.]
What about you? You can't ask for my thoughts on the matter without sharing your own.
i don't know much about it to be honest i'm not religious? i guess? lol i don't think eos has an actual religion people worship astrals, some more than others, and there's six of them
well five, one was killed in the astral war before if history is to be believed
this kind of stuff is more relevant to the line of kings in lucis or to the oracle they can talk to the astrals and all that
they're pretty shitty as far as gods go anyway
...it's said that the spirit of the lucii remained around insomnia (that's the crown city i grew up in) protecting it, encased in these huge statues all around it noct..told me that they kind of guide the kings, sometimes, idk he was pretty vague about it he hated talking about that kind of stuff
There are few things worse in this universe than not knowing. You have my condolences.
[Not to mention a world where the gods only seemed to commune with royals, when there was a whole population of people still existing on that world. He wonders if that's why Prompto labels them as 'shitty'.
[it sure is 2am and v is asking and prompto doesn't really have many people to talk to about this. plus, they're roommates, right? there's something to it.]
according to the prophecy, noct has to die it'd be nice to know that it doesn't just end there for him
he deserves better than that
[thus his... interest in the religious aspects of all these earth poets, maybe trying to find an answer in that regard.]
Then the questions regarding religion and spirituality, and what greater things might exist in the beyond, are suddenly not so surprising. Thoughts to keep one awake at 2 am. Seems as if they've found their way over to V.]
A prophecy that ends in death is otherwise known as a tragedy.
[He's not good at this, though. Consolation. He never was.]
And yet a willingness doesn't make it easier. Neither does it abate the feeling of helplessness, unable to change an outcome.
For what it's worth, I'm sorry. Your gods are not so much gods as they are entities that have more power than you, and can do what they like accordingly. That's what it sounds like to me.
[And in some deeply ingrained part of him, still carried through from his old body to this one, that settles unwell.]
you're not the only one who thinks it sounds like that
[ardyn had said as much in more words and under more dramatic turns. prompto has basically been having his whole view of the circumstances tumbled upside down after his usual uncaring attitude towards the astrals to now being fully immersed in trying to understand them.]
[moot point, really.]
at least i hope we don't go out without a good fight
[because he'll be there for noct, right? there's no way he will miss out on being there when noctis has to confront the very core of the prophecy to fulfill it. right? (and yet his stay in new amsterdam feels longer and longer, and a paranoid little thought in his head is wondering if maybe these blasphemous thoughts are keeping him from returning. ardyn is here, too, at least, so maybe the prophecy will hold on tight for just a bit longer.]
[the answer feels a little unexpected coming from v. prompto knows the guy to play along with his (admittedly) dumber ideas, and he has been on the receiving end of v's teasing several times now since they've met.]
[the reassurance is nice]
yeah! i'll do my best to work towards that too we all are so.. anyway, thanks
[feeling flustered, good thing this is over texting]
sorry for bothering your sleep lol.... maybe some other time you could recommend other poems and poets and stuff??
There's plenty more "Earth stuff" where this comes from.
[Even if they remain in the realm of classic literature/poetry, it would take an impossible age for two people to get through it all.
A minute or two passes, and then V sends a list of titles through. There's poetry, of course, up at the top. But as one meanders closer to the bottom of the list, V ventures into the aforementioned classical literature.
There are a few oddballs from a more "modern" age, too. Catch-22 and Fahrenheit 451, for example. But most is 19th century.]
[prompto smiles to himself at the message. maybe he hasn't annoyed v as much as he thinks he has (and as much as v should be). maybe this roommate idea wasn't too terrible.]
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i just forgot how late it was lol
yeah uh... sorry about that? didn't think you'd reply until the morning or something
if i didn't ask now i'd forget which is the worst thing
were you this tired back home??
in any case i figured i wanted to know what the hype about this blake guy is and all
and i was bored
[he thought it'd put him to sleep, but he's actually using braincells]
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[And he leaves it at that. "What the hype is", though.
Despite himself, V cracks a smile at that.]
Blake lived in a time period where religion was not so much a choice as it was an expectation. He was indeed a man of God, though ironically possessed somewhat of a rebellious spirit, not particularly fond of organized religion.
But his works are often times still very spiritual as a result.
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[he isn't sure what that means, but figures it's closely related to whatever the family of oracles would do, what with conferring with the gods and praying to them for favors or blessings. he figures it might be like some sects of people across lucis, who went past the oracle and recited their own prayers.]
[never been the religious type, him. which, now that he thinks about it, is perhaps strange that insomnia never pushed for any particular religion or type of worship. not even the ever radiant crystal received much attention other than for its magical properties and its gift quality from the gods.]
do you believe in stuff like religion?
[anyway, spins this around into asking v questions about himself, cool]
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I know that the universe is now full of entities that I cannot comprehend or am even aware of. Some of those might be gods, demons, or spirits. In my world, the supernatural is not an uncommon thing. So yes, I would say that I am spiritual.
Religion can be a guiding set of principles. It can also incite fanaticism and power struggles between societies and people of differing opinions. I have nothing against it when it manifests harmlessly; but I do not pray to a god, if that's what you're asking me.
[Wow we're getting into heavy stuff at 2 am]
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we spell them daemons btw but it has the same pronunciation
[prompto isn't familiar with how to have a conversation about these topics, clearly. he thinks it's cool that v is pretty well aware of himself and religion and the like. it's a portion of knowledge prompto is otherwise lacking in.]
sounds like a reason someone would start a war for
[perhaps it's somewhat... similar to the empire seeking out the crystal that graced the lucians with magic and prosperity for so long? what becomes of a man, though, when they otherwise cease to exist? prompto remembers verstael, so far gone, dissolving into parasitic miasma, flowing onto a machine.]
i noticed that the people on earth have a lot of gods too but they're not from the same religion
seems weird
[but]
they follow gods to save their souls? do all living things have that?
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It's all dependent on the person.
[He never cared for more than the gathering of power, back when he was still Vergil. Aware of spirituality and religion, but never applying such notions strictly to himself.]
What about you? You can't ask for my thoughts on the matter without sharing your own.
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i don't know much about it to be honest
i'm not religious? i guess? lol i don't think eos has an actual religion
people worship astrals, some more than others, and there's six of them
well five, one was killed in the astral war before if history is to be believed
this kind of stuff is more relevant to the line of kings in lucis or to the oracle
they can talk to the astrals and all that
they're pretty shitty as far as gods go anyway
...it's said that the spirit of the lucii remained around insomnia (that's the crown city i grew up in) protecting it, encased in these huge statues all around it
noct..told me that they kind of guide the kings, sometimes, idk he was pretty vague about it
he hated talking about that kind of stuff
i wish i knew what came after, you know
[no, he doesn't know]
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[Not to mention a world where the gods only seemed to commune with royals, when there was a whole population of people still existing on that world. He wonders if that's why Prompto labels them as 'shitty'.
Came after what, though?
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according to the prophecy, noct has to die
it'd be nice to know that it doesn't just end there for him
he deserves better than that
[thus his... interest in the religious aspects of all these earth poets, maybe trying to find an answer in that regard.]
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Then the questions regarding religion and spirituality, and what greater things might exist in the beyond, are suddenly not so surprising. Thoughts to keep one awake at 2 am. Seems as if they've found their way over to V.]
A prophecy that ends in death is otherwise known as a tragedy.
[He's not good at this, though. Consolation. He never was.]
Maybe it can be avoided.
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they don't care
they just want the prophecy to be fulfilled no matter what
or tragedy lol
it's
okay though
he said it was something he'd be willing to do
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For what it's worth, I'm sorry. Your gods are not so much gods as they are entities that have more power than you, and can do what they like accordingly. That's what it sounds like to me.
[And in some deeply ingrained part of him, still carried through from his old body to this one, that settles unwell.]
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[ardyn had said as much in more words and under more dramatic turns. prompto has basically been having his whole view of the circumstances tumbled upside down after his usual uncaring attitude towards the astrals to now being fully immersed in trying to understand them.]
[moot point, really.]
at least i hope we don't go out without a good fight
[because he'll be there for noct, right? there's no way he will miss out on being there when noctis has to confront the very core of the prophecy to fulfill it. right? (and yet his stay in new amsterdam feels longer and longer, and a paranoid little thought in his head is wondering if maybe these blasphemous thoughts are keeping him from returning. ardyn is here, too, at least, so maybe the prophecy will hold on tight for just a bit longer.]
or the guys will, at least while i'm still here
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But V, unlike his original self, can more easily accept that's sometimes the reality of the situation.]
We will find a way for you to return. Just as I'll find a way to return to my own world. For what it's worth, I can promise you that.
[A promise easily made, because he has to. He must.]
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[the reassurance is nice]
yeah! i'll do my best to work towards that too
we all are so.. anyway, thanks
[feeling flustered, good thing this is over texting]
sorry for bothering your sleep lol.... maybe some other time you could recommend other poems and poets and stuff??
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[It's hardly anything to V. Again, an easy promise for him to make. A show of his own determination.]
I can send you a shortlist of recommendations now, if you want. That's simple enough.
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okay, if you want??
earth stuff is weird in comparison to what i know
but it's interesting to learn about
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[Even if they remain in the realm of classic literature/poetry, it would take an impossible age for two people to get through it all.
A minute or two passes, and then V sends a list of titles through. There's poetry, of course, up at the top. But as one meanders closer to the bottom of the list, V ventures into the aforementioned classical literature.
There are a few oddballs from a more "modern" age, too. Catch-22 and Fahrenheit 451, for example. But most is 19th century.]
Here. This should keep you busy for a long time.
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they're all on the books database which is kind of crazy to think about
anyway thanks! i'll let you know when i read some of these
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[prompto smiles to himself at the message. maybe he hasn't annoyed v as much as he thinks he has (and as much as v should be). maybe this roommate idea wasn't too terrible.]
cool
night v
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[Early morning.
Now then. Time for another attempt at sleep.]